Remix Melbourne 2008
With Remix over, I thought I’d sum up my thoughts on the event. Last year’s Remix was my first Microsoft event, but now I have a few more under my belt. This year I hung around Stephen Price, whose Quokka cartoons were featured all over the Remix blog. Stephen’s a very cool bloke, even if he gets lost too easily.
Keynote
While Mark Pesce’s keynote speech was fantastic, I’m not sure how much relevance there was to most of Remix. The content of Remix’s sessions were always going to be about about XAML (Silverlight/WPF), IE8/ASP.NET, and Expression Studio – that is technically focused, rather than the social implications. The Live Platform session (the third session) certainly did expand on "hyper-connectivity" (social) and the technological side of things, but the rest of the Remix "conversation" was perhaps a bit too focused on the technical or product side of things. That aside, I will repeat, it was a fantastic presentation. Get yourself on Twitter now!
If you weren’t at Remix, watch the video above (text version)
Session 1 – What’s New in Windows Presentation Foundation 3.5 and beyond
Speaker: Joseph Cooney
I quite like WPF, but I haven’t really seen the need to move to .NET 3.5….until Joseph’s presentation.
.NET 3.5 cool things are:
- New (I think?) Addins space is in a secure isolate (separate app domains), and are able to have different security levels, such as (AddInSecurtyLevel.)Internet or FullTrust.
For security purposes, Addins do not see a "parent" GUI object – they cannot "walk up the VisualTree". - Under .NET 3.5 SP1, ClickOnce and XBAPs supported in Firefox
- Now possible to "brand"/customise the setup program (generated by the VisualStudio deploy wizard)
The WPF cool things are:
- Interactive 2D on 3D is now "native", rather than a third party/unsupported library
- WPF can make use of some DirectX stuff natively, rather than having to Interop/P/Invoke
- Better debugging for WPF Databinding (this stuff is gold – will be making use of it for MahTweets!)
- Formatting in DataTemplates/DataBinding (ie, <TextBlock Text="{Binding textField, StringFormat= – \{1\}}" /> will prepend " – " to the string) Nothing "wow", but so much more logical to do that on the presentation side of things, rather than needing to modify the business objects so that you can present the data correctly.
- Recycling Virtualisation. Emphasis because this is particularly cool. In .NET 3.0, UI controls such as a ListBox would be virtualised, generating the ListBoxItems for the items that are visible at the time (+5 items above or below). When the ListBox is scrolled, and a new bunch of ListBoxItems is visible, the old ones are destroyed.
Recycling Virtualisation in .NET 3.5 doesn’t destroy the "old’ ListBoxItems, but reuses them. This means memory usage while scrolling stays about the same and doesn’t continuously grow the more you scroll! - Out of band releases for new controls, much better than having to wait for .NET vNext
- ShaderEffects sort of replace BitmapEffects (both still exist, but no reason to use BitmapEffects now) implemented in hardware so performance is much much better, and scales properly. You can create your own ShaderEffects using HSHL/PS
Ugly things:
- .NET 3.5 is 200MB in size, compared to 50B for 3.0, and ~20meg for v1/1.1/2.0. 3.5 does include both x64 and x86 binaries, which partially explains the size. In VS2008/.NET3.5 SP1, there will be a ".NET Client Only Framework" (compile option in VS2008 SP1) that is aiming for ~25MB download, but wont include all the .NET libraries (such as System.Web), but only the ones that are most commonly used in client applications.
Joseph’s slides and demos are up on his blog already!
Session 2 – Introducing Microsoft Expression Studio 2
Speaker: Tim Aidlin
This was a fairly run-of-the-mill "I have a new application, let me show you it" presentation, covering Expression Studio 2 (except Expression Encoder 2) as well as Deep Zoom Composer. Unfortunately, for any attendees of Remix 07 or Mix On Campus, this sort of stuff (albeit for xStudio1) was pretty much what the events were all about last time, and it felt like the audience knew a bit more (about their favourite specific application) than Tim did.
While the list of new features to xMedia2 are neat (RAW image handling, batch renaming, metadata browsing, voice annotations, gallery generation), I still don’t really know what its purpose is in the Expression Studio suite. If it was a free app I could probably find a use for it, but for photo/image management Live Gallery is "good enough", and I manage all my music in Media Player…maybe its great for video management?
Contrasting with statements from Lee Brimelow from last year (that "everything you can do in Design, you can do in Blend, so I don’t see the point of xDesign"), Tim showed off xDesign2 and some of the reasons why you’d use it over xBlend. Yes, you can probably do everything in xBlend, just like everything you can do in Photoshop can be done in Paint. Being a developer, I think I’ll still be sticking to Blend, but I could see how the more artistic parts of XAML would be easier in xDesign.
Despite the improvements to xWeb2, as a developer and somebody who has been generated CSS/(X)HTML for years, I will not get any value out of xWeb2. VS2008 does all the stuff I need to do, or Notepad++ steps in when I need to go kung fu on my CSS. PHP IntelliSense/support has made it in, but this should have been a feature in xWeb2.
Session 3 – Windows Live Platform: Take the best of Windows Live and make it yours
Speakers: Angus Logan, Bronwen Zande, John O’Brien
I didn’t really know what to expect from this session, the Live Platform session sounded like it would be pretty boring, but I wasn’t overly interested in the other session which was upstairs, so the Live Platform session it was! I was pleasantly surprised, as this was a very cool session, possibly my favourite for the day! My laziness paid off!
The key things were how you can use Microsoft’s Live Platform to create incredibly interactive websites by making use of the Live services such as Virtual Earth, Live Messenger (/Hotmail) contacts/presence, Spaces, Storage (FolderShare/SkyDrive), Notifications (via email, SMS for North America, or via WLM through the alerts service).
For a few projects I have in mind, the Live ID login system looks appealing, although I’m wondering if a service like OpenID is more ‘acceptable’ (by end users, since Microsoft is so evil and all, apparently). I’d be very interested in the Live Platform Team’s view on OpenID vs LiveID, or if they can coexist.
Angus left Twhirl running while giving his presentation, so I managed to get a few tweets popping up on the screen!
Session 4 – Building an Immersive, Integrated Media Experience in Silverlight
This session showed off the new ABC Silverlight Store, which while cool, is all Silverlight v1 stuff. It just seemed to lack the "wow", going over very similar things that were covered at Remix 07, without the edge the original presentations on Silverlight v1 had because it wasn’t new. I walked out (I needed a break/fresh air, not because I was bored) before it finished, so the last 15 minutes may have been awesome, its hard to tell.
The Silverlight Store also had a matching desktop client…written in Silverlight? I think (as a demonstration of the power of Silverlight and WPF), it would have been mucho cooler to do that in WPF. The technical reasons for not doing so are more than understandable – WPF weighs in at 20meg, and Silverlight at about 4meg. Both clients being Silverlight means just one framework download/install, which is much more friendly for the target audience.
The presentation was done using DeepZoom, zooming into each slide or diagram to show more detail, such as exploding a file overview into the actual code behind that file. That bit was cool.
Session 5 – Skipped
I skipped session five, not because of the content available, but because I ran into Long Zheng, and we got to chatting. Long has a new Zune ("Long Zhune"). He’s a cool guy, with or without the Zune!
Session 6 – Using Microsoft Silverlight for Creating Rich Mobile User Experiences
Speakers: Shane Morris, Michael Kordahi and David Lemphers. Originally meant to be presented by Leslie Nassar
I’ve been looking at creating a mobile version of MahTweets, using .NET CF. The three problems I have with .NET CF are limited controls available, it’s all WinForms crap, and only available on Windows Mobile phones. Silverlight, however, will be on Windows Mobile phones and Nokia’s S60 and S40 OS’ phones, uses XAML solving both WinForms problem, and amount of controls available!
A good list of S60 phones can be found at the Nokia Gaming Blog – I think the cool thing is that it includes the popular E65, and all (I think) of the powerful N series phones! It is foreseeable that other phones (or browsers) will eventually be able to play Silverlight as well!
Shane talked about how Mobile is already big, but is already accelerating faster than PC/laptop markets, and the ways designs will have to change not just for the limited capability or screen real estate, but the way the mobile user "snacks" on content.

Michael demo’d Silverlight on a HTC WinMo phone, but unfortunately its "pre-pre-pre-beta", so we aren’t able to play with anything yet. Apparently some of the other Remix events around the world pulled the Silverlight mobile content! The goal of the Silverlight mobile project is to use the exact same Silverlight tools, and allow all existing Silverlight stuff to just work – you wont have to compile to "Silverlight Mobile", ala .NET and .NET CF.
Imagine Cup
During Session 5, I had Long talk me through what his teams project was all about. It is very cool, but rather than fumbling around to describe what it is, he’s already blogged about the team SOAK entry.
Congratulations again to Long, David Burela, Edward Hooper, and Dimaz Pramudya! Good luck in France guys.
Overall
It was fantastic to see that some of the feedback from last year made the event change this year, such as including free wifi and ‘recharge’ stations. Unfortunately, the wifi/net connection weren’t too stable up until ~3pm, and other suggestions such as including pens for the feedback forms didn’t make it through, so Stephen and I pinched one of the vendor’s pens.
I can’t remember if I wrote down "better food", but this year had a lot less salmon and cold wedges! There were even TimTams! (’cause, you know, this it totally the most important part of the day).
This year the event was split across Melbourne and Sydney, and cut down to one day (each). This year’s venue (Melbourne Town Hall) was both better and worse than last year. More room to move between sessions and chairs to sit on, but higher ceilings (which created echo’s and "lost the vibe"), consistently bad lighting and uncomfortable chairs during the sessions all worked against the Town Hall. A few others agreed on the venue being ’so-so’, and Ed Hooper suggested that the Melbourne Convention Centre, which is where Heroes Happened was held, would have been a better choice – which I agree with.
Remix is still in an infant state, its still learning about itself, but it is developing, experimenting and evolving. While not everything was perfect, I still will be attending next year because despite all my complaints it was still a great (albeit exhausting) day. Next year, however I think I’ll just take my camera and a notepad, rather than laptop + camera, which is fairly weighty. I’ll also sit a bit closer so that some more of my photos turn out. Argh!
Just like last year, Nick Hodge has a summary post of activity on the blogosphere about Remix.
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